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Certainly it is not at Targa

 
You are right! Thanks for clarification,the starting list is evidently wrong!  
N.D. means not departure,yes.
ATTENTION, I have to bring up to date about Alpine participations list on '71:
 
1971

 
n°115 Capra-Lepri          A110  1,3  32°
n°117 Colombo-Tandoj   A110  1,3  ab. (Tandoj dead on race)
n°118 Ramoino-Trenti     A110  1,3  ab.
n°119 Ljacono-Mantia    A110  1,3  ab.
 
pardon for the omissions!  
 
WHAT A RARE PICTURES, I never seen them, precious contribute to Targa section.
 
BYE and see next from Shortleg

Photo provenant d'un numéro de l'Automobile . Année 66 ? Qui ?
 

 
1966 AlfaRomeo TZ2 n°124 driven by Federico and Martini (aband.)

Hello friends, here I am.
This evening I'll show you some images from starting boxes
 

 
1930
 

 
1935
 

 
1968  from left: n°220 Vaccarella-Schutz; n°192 L.Bianchi-Casoni; n°182 Baghetti-Biscaldi
 

 
1968  from left: n°224 Elford-Maglioli; n°226 Siffert-Stommelen; n°230 Mitter-Scarfiotti
 
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1969  starting grid
 

 
1970  from left: n°20 Elford-Herrmann; n°12 Siffert-Redman; n°36 Attwood-Waldegaard, n°40 Rodriguez-Kinnunen
 

 
1973  from left: n°9 Kinnunen_Haldi; n°107T and 107 Pucci-Stekkonig; n°8 Muller-VanLennep
 
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1969 starting grid

1912 TARGA FLORIO
 
BALDONI-MASI sur ALFA ROMEO 24HP   (DNF)
 

1913 TARGA FLORIO
 
NAZZARO-? sur NAZZARO   Vainqueur
 

1914 COPPA FLORIO
 
FRANCHINI sur ALFA ROMEO 40/60HP   (3e)
 

1914 TARGA FLORIO
 
CEIRANO sur SCAT   Vainqueur

 
CORTESE sur NAZZARO   (5e)

1919 TARGA FLORIO
 
FERRARI-? sur CMN   (DNF)

1920 TARGA FLORIO
 
MERAGALLI-? sur NAZZARO   Vainqueurs

 
ALFA ROMEO TEAM
# 2   CAMPARI sur ALFA ROMEO 1914 GP                       (DNF)
#14   FERRARI-CONTI sur ALFA ROMEO 20/30HP CORSA    (2e)
#17   BALDONI sur ALFA ROMEO 40/60HP                       (?)

Hello ronny, in 1912-13-14 the race was denominated Giro di Sicilia-Targa Florio because took place on route of Giro di Sicilia (km 1050 around Isle) and was valid for 7^,8^,9^Targa Florio, like in '48,'49 and '50.
The car n°17 in 1920 (Baldoni) was forced to withdrawal.
Now I'd like to profit by to show some images from Giro di Sicilia
 

 
1948 Biondetti-Troubetzkoy (winner)
 
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1950 Nuvolari on Cisitalia Abarth (ab.)
 

 
1950 Bornigia-Bornigia on AlfaRomeo 6C compet. (winner)
 

 
1950 Taruffi on Ferrari 375 (ab.)
 

 
1952 Marzotto P.-Marini on Ferrari 166 MM (winner)
 

 
1953 Villoresi-Cassani on Ferrari 340 MM (winner)
 
see next, bye

 
1950 Nuvolari on Cisitalia Abarth (ab.)

Hallo Targa Fans
I´m a journalist in Germany. As I´m writing a book about the Porsche activities at the Targa Florio I´m looking for some photographs of the 1970 event. Especially I search pictures of the Porsche 917, which was driven during the Pretesting (many laps) and the practise (just one lap, 5th fastest time) by Vic Elford. The car was painted red and Elford had an accident during the pretests. Due to the heat it was also driven without doors.  
Furthermore I´m looking for pictures af the accident when a Porsche mechanic crashed the car near Cefalu. Probably you know that the car burned and was completly destroyed.  
If you know pictures I would appreciate it very much if you could name me the photographer. Published pictures will be paid for of course.
I made a lot of pictures during the 1971, 1972 and 1973 race. Perhaps I can post them sometime , when I have more time.
 
Thanks for your help.    

Hello Carlos, I found a picture 0f the 917 but it was blue not red. Colour red was at LeMans, it was the same car but repainted blue)
regards  
 

Thanks shortleg
 
I know the picture you posted. It´s an AP-picture and it´s published in Vic Elfords book. But how do you know the car is blue ? In the galleries of "Targa Florio.net" they have a color-picture of the same car at the pits near Cerda - and the car is defenitely red with white stripes. If you have got some real informations of a blue car, then there must have been 2 different 917.  
 
Perhaps someone knows more about this car and the car, which was destroyed by the mechanic.
 
Thanks again
Carlos  

Hi  
I have this picture from a very long time, more than 50 years, and I don't remember who and when but I'm pretty sure that it is at the Targa-Florio (and that it was a dnf !). Maybe you know shortleg?
Bye
Pifpafadonf
 

 
Hello, here is the colour picture!  
In March '70 the Porsche came in Sicily to comparative tests with a 917 red colour, but that car was destroyed by a mechanic. In May (I was there   ) the car taking part in official tests was blue colour, driven by Elford with n°2. Now is all clear?
bye from Shortleg
 

 
Hello pifpa, here I'm:
this is the Bugatti of a Parisian engineer Louis Charavel (nickname "Sabipa" ) off road in '27 Targa.
 
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To shortleg
 
Tu poi mandarmi un indirizzo e-mail per una domanda particolare ?

Hi shortleg, thanks for the answer about "Sabipa". Here the arrival of Mme Junek in 1928, in a long article about her in Road &Track of february .60 it is said that people where so surprised about her performance that the flagman failed to stop Divo who actually drove 6 laps. I have never seen that anywhere else, do you know if it is true?
 

 
Bye
Pifpafadonf

 
Yes sure: fabergambis@hotmail.com
ciao, Giuseppe Gambacorta

 
Hi pifpa, what written in Road&Track is not correct; Divo finished regularly, on the contrary, Chiron (4°) engrossed in the race, continued for another lap (108 km)! When returned on start line he was looked fresh and satisfacted like before beginning !!!
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Hello, more photos on Martini's Porsches in '73:
 

 

 

 

 
Tanks shortleg. The older I grew, the more doubtfull I am about what people write in books and magazines. I follow lots of forums and I discover everywhere that things I took for granted where just bullshit! I am not surprised about Chiron, the man must have been a real athlete and even at sixty he had a better allure than many guys half that age and just the way he was walking showed that he was still really fit.  
So long, pifpafadonf

 
Actually, I think M.me Junek lost probably the race in cause of a puncture and mainly in cause of tiredness after a stressfull car chase to close the gap. It's all!
bye again

Hello friends, here to you some of painting on Targa
 

 

 
and some of posters
 

 
ciao

Hello, here I am to show you more photos on twenties
 
1924 Giulio Masetti on Mercedes
 

 
1926 Masetti's fatal accident on Delage
 

 
1926 Emilio Materassi on Hispano Suiza
 

 
1926 Antonio Borzacchini on Salmson
 

 
1927 Andrè Boillot on Peugeot
 

 
1927 Aymo Maggi on Maserati
 
ciao

 
1924 Giulio Masetti on Mercedes

Excuse the mistake: the photo refer to Masetti on AlfaRomeo RLTF in 1923

Great photos and beautifull paintings shortleg, such a wonderfull ambiance.  
Comme je n'ai plus confiance dans mes sources je vous laisse désormais le soin d'identifier les photos que je poste (je suis sur que plusieurs fidéles du topic s'en feront un plaisir)
 

© "Champion"
 
la même voiture dans différentes revues de l'époque:

© MotoringMagazine NZ  
 

© MotoringMagazine NZ
 

© Quatroruotte
 

© Auto Italiana
 
Bonne fin de week-end.

Bonsoir.  
 
Pour compléter l'évocation de Mme Junek voici une peinture de Michael Turner la représentant avec sa fameuse Bugatti T35 jaune
 

 
Amicalement.

What a beautiful images Pifpa    
This is the Porsche 910  '67 winner of Stommelen-Hawkins (the australian driver falled in the sea in Montecarlo GP)
 

 

 
'67 winners
 
More images from '67
 

 
J.C.Killy and Cahier
 

 
Vaccarella-Scarfiotti (Ferrari 330 P4)
 
...and american cars...
 

 
P.Hill-Sharp on Chaparral 2F
 

 
Greder-Giorgi on Ford Gt 40
 

 
The Ford GT 40 of Ligier-Schlesser
 
bye    

Hello friends, here two paintings on Targa '55 and '73 very nice
 

 

 
see soon