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ranocchio61	Pino Scusami ............... Mi spiace rompere l'armonia del gruppo della "TARGA FLORIO", e sono certo di passare non solo per un che rompe esclusivamente l'armonia..... ma.... io attendo che qualcuno mi spieghi......anche perche' ho visto una foto mia con Carmelo.....che vorrei spiegata ..... Ringrazio di cuore per la "buona pace"

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shortleg

CLARIFICATION:
The car n°76 abandoned on 10° lap, but it was equally classified .
Bye

shortleg

berfarigoulette a écrit :

Bonsoir aux spécialistes de la targa.
Ce que j'ai sur la Targa Florio 66 à propos des Alpine ne correspond pas.
Targa Florio ( 8 mai 66)
8117 SM 75 Delageneste-Rosinski n°72 6e 2e classe 1300
4829 SB 75 Vinatier-Orsini n°78 7e 1er classe 1300
4830 SB 75 Hanrioud-Piot n°76 18e
7077 SJ 75 Toivonen-Jansson n°74 abandon?
Mulet utilisé aux essais 4354 RZ 75 à vérifier Hanrioud sur 74 et Toivonen sur 76
Qui pourrait me confirmer? Merci d'avance.

Here is the final table ranking:
n°72 Delageneste-Rosinski 6° overall - 1° cat.SPORT up to 1300
n°78 Vinatier-Orsini 7° overall - 2° cat.SPORT up to 1300
n°76 Hanrioud-Piot 18° overall - 3° cat.SPORT up to 1300
n°74 Toivonen-Jansson abandon in 3° lap ( gear shift failure)

la bagarre
with helpfulness from Shortleg

berfarigoulette

pifpafadonf1 a écrit :

Pinto / Todaro, Alfa-Romeo TZ 2, 4ème, devant Rosinski / Delageneste, Alpine qui remportent la classe Sport 1000/1300
l'Alpine de Hanrioud / Piot passe devant Gerhard Mitter qui a abandonné

@+, Pifpafadonf

pifpafadonf1

The Bugs are so cutes Shortleg, but what about the yellow one of Madame Junek?
Fin de l'annèe 1966 , toujours la même source.

Timo makinen et Rhodes. 1er en GT

Guichet / Baghetti, Dino (à carburateurs ) 2ème au général

Pinto / Todaro, Alfa-Romeo TZ 2, 4ème, devant Rosinski / Delageneste, Alpine qui remportent la classe Sport 1000/1300

l'Alpine de Hanrioud / Piot passe devant Gerhard Mitter qui a abandonné

Cella / Marzi, Lancia Fulvia HF, 11ème au général et 1ère de classe

@+, Pifpafadonf

shortleg

I'm wrong about the photo, excuse me cry:

The right photo is the following:

Encore la 330 P3 de Vaccarella / Bandini

shortleg

La 330 P3 de Vaccarella et Bandini qui l'accidentera

This is the bend at Collesano crossing where in '67 Vaccarella bumped the pavement and...adieu victoire! non:

what a nice photos! Compliment!

shortleg

...and for the Joy of French love:

did you remember?

pifpafadonf1

Targa Florio 1966 (L'Annèe Automobile n°14)

Le prototype 8 cyl. 2,2l de Klass / Davis (n° 224) double la Carrera 6 de Heini Walter

La Dino 206S à injection de Lodovico Scarfiotti et Mike Parkes après que ce dernier l'ait crashé. Une de plus…

La Carrera 6 de Bourillot / Maglioli classée 5me. Le poly de la carrosserie était encore plus mince que sur une Alpine coque légère d'usine et aucune fixation ne résistait bien longtemps.

Les vainqueurs, Herbert Müller et Willy Mairesse

La 330 P3 de Vaccarella et Bandini qui l'accidentera

Encore la 330 P3 de Vaccarella / Bandini
A bientot pour la suite de la TF 1966
Pifpafadonf

shortleg

pifpafadonf1 a écrit :

Hi shortleg
Another one of the same car: serial number 3451GT, sold 20 April 1962 at Pietro Ferraro who owned it until September (reg. number:13132L4 then TS50656). It has given the GTO the first victory in European Championship at this Targa (1st division III in GT) Thanks for the photo of the Carretto Siciliano, I try to find color pictures of the model and I will post them.
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] /TF-025-62
Bye
Pifpafadonf

Here is my "Carretto" miniature

bye

R1135

Thanks Shortleg et Fifibm :
Encore 1973 :

Voilà pour 1973.

... 1968 arrive demain !

A que ciao !

fifibm

R1135 a écrit :

Bonsoir,
Oui, la N°5, c'est bien Ickx-Redman chassis 0894. J'édite mon post pour corriger cette erreur.
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 552438.JPG

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 552439.JPG

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 552440.JPG

A suivre...

OUI OUI la suite, la suite!!! bounce:

pifpafadonf1

shortleg a écrit :

No sure, I'm a Ferrari's fan; look at the following photos: you can't believe was it colour brown? ange:
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] ol_mod.jpg
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] _S_mod.jpg
Ferrari GTO driven by Scarlatti-Ferraro in the Targa '62 (4th classifyed), one of the first exemplar built.
Bye

shortleg

[In 1949 the Ferrari 166 SC n°344 driven by Biondetti-Benedetti won the Targa Florio (in that year Giro di Sicilia too).
I wish to know if this car had the spare wheel positioned at sight , outside of the rear bonnet, like the other 166 driven by Sighinolfi-Vallone on the same race. Usually the spare wheel was inside of the rear bonnet.
I never was able to find any picture 3/4 back.
Regards to all and...good search

shortleg

Watching again the Alfa's photo I did'nt realize it was Facetti driving, but it is rare and beautiful equally.
BYE again

shortleg

Wonderful colour pictures! Clay the one is a rarity! I never seen it.
I have got a b&w photo autographed by himself; what a great men he was!
Well, very well friends, let's go forward in this way!
Many thanks for your pecious contribute, BYE

R1135

Bonsoir,
Oui, la N°5, c'est bien Ickx-Redman chassis 0894. J'édite mon post pour corriger cette erreur.

A suivre...

shortleg

pifpafadonf1 a écrit :

The "Carretto Siciliano" one of the first toys of the Marzotto brothers, very rich kids but also very fast drivers. From memory it started life as a Ferrari 166 but was upgraded to 212 specs with a very light and rather ugly coachwork. It ran at the Targa Florio and won the Giro di Sicilia in 51, was rebodied for the .52 Mille Miglia but destroyed before the race. I have only seen this bad photograph and a 1/43 scale model.
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] oSiciliano

The next Marzotto Special designed and built by Fontana with the same philosophy was this one wich also ran at the Giro di Sicilia, the Targa Florio, the Mille Miglia and the Monaco Grand Prix of 1952. I don't know if the racing numbers in the picture are of the Giro or the Targa (but not of the 1000 Miles). The car was later rebodied, then sold, crashed and burned.
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] iaMarzotto

For a change from Ferraris, a nice photo of a 300 SL in 1955 by the great Bernard Cahier
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 0937/300SL
Bye, Pifpafadonf

Hi Pifpa, I have found another "Carretto Siciliano" picture (driver Vittorio Marzotto).

shortleg

pifpafadonf1 a écrit :

The next Marzotto Special designed and built by Fontana with the same philosophy was this one wich also ran at the Giro di Sicilia, the Targa Florio, the Mille Miglia and the Monaco Grand Prix of 1952. I don't know if the racing numbers in the picture are of the Giro or the Targa (but not of the 1000 Miles). The car was later rebodied, then sold, crashed and burned.

This is the car driven by Giannino Marzotto on Giro di Sicilia '52(abandonment); this year won his brother Paolo.
bye

shortleg

More Ferraris on Targa friends:

Munari (the drake of rallyes) 312P '72 - Merzario 312P '73 - Vaccarella 512S '70
bye

shortleg

pifpafadonf1 a écrit :

Histoire de bien lancer le topic et puisqu'on est dans les GTO éclatons nous encore un peu! Là on les voit comme elles étaient vraiment, patinées, un peu chiffon par endroit, pas comme les piéces de musées super-hyper peaufinées de maintenant.
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] /TF-006-63
#3445GT, celle de Scarlatti / Bordeu sous un autre angle

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] /TF-007-63
celle là est VRAIMENT chiffon

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] /TF-008-63
un peu avant la photo ci dessus

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 937/TF-010
mon fond d'ecran à moi! Photos du livre de Jess Pouret.
By the way shortleg, I hope you have nothing against Ferraris…
@+
Pifpafadonf

No sure, I'm a Ferrari's fan; look at the following photos: you can't believe was it colour brown? ange:

Ferrari GTO driven by Scarlatti-Ferraro in the Targa '62 (4th classifyed), one of the first exemplar built.
Bye

shortleg

R1135 a écrit :

Bonsoir !
Targa Florio 1973; Source A-H N°5.
312PB ; Merzario/Vacarella

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 552435.JPG

Porsche 908/3 ; Haldi/Cheneviere

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 552436.JPG

Carrera RSR Steckkonig/Pucci

http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] 552437.JPG

... A suivre

This nice photo portrays Ickx-Redman withdrawal on 3rd lap in '73
bye to all

R1135

pifpafadonf1 a écrit :

J'adore les autos patinées, un peu usées, maculées de poussière ou de boue, marquées par des traces d'une utilisation en rapport avec leur conception. Une auto heureuse est une auto qui roule.

R1135

Bonsoir !
Targa Florio 1973; Source A-H N°5.
312PB ; Ickx/Redman

Porsche 908/3 ; Haldi/Cheneviere

Carrera RSR Steckkonig/Pucci

... A suivre

pifpafadonf1

Histoire de bien lancer le topic et puisqu'on est dans les GTO éclatons nous encore un peu! Là on les voit comme elles étaient vraiment, patinées, un peu chiffon par endroit, pas comme les piéces de musées super-hyper peaufinées de maintenant.

#3445GT, celle de Scarlatti / Bordeu sous un autre angle

celle là est VRAIMENT chiffon

un peu avant la photo ci dessus

mon fond d'ecran à moi! Photos du livre de Jess Pouret.
By the way shortleg, I hope you have nothing against Ferraris…
@+
Pifpafadonf

R1135

Dimanche en milieu d'après-midi, j'ai eu la surprise de croiser, Boulevard St-Michel une 300SL cabriolet. Toujours aussi impressionnante !

Voilà ma première contribution à ce topic la 250GTO châssis 3445GT :
En 1963 Scarlatti-Bordeu

En 1964 Norinder-Troberg

Bien à vous !

pifpafadonf1

The "Carretto Siciliano" one of the first toys of the Marzotto brothers, very rich kids but also very fast drivers. From memory it started life as a Ferrari 166 but was upgraded to 212 specs with a very light and rather ugly coachwork. It ran at the Targa Florio and won the Giro di Sicilia in 51, was rebodied for the .52 Mille Miglia but destroyed before the race. I have only seen this bad photograph and a 1/43 scale model.

The next Marzotto Special designed and built by Fontana with the same philosophy was this one wich also ran at the Giro di Sicilia, the Targa Florio, the Mille Miglia and the Monaco Grand Prix of 1952. I don't know if the racing numbers in the picture are of the Giro or the Targa (but not of the 1000 Miles). The car was later rebodied, then sold, crashed and burned.

For a change from Ferraris, a nice photo of a 300 SL in 1955 by the great Bernard Cahier

Bye, Pifpafadonf

pifpafadonf1

Hi shortleg, this topic on the Targa Florio is really a brilliant idea and I hope it will be more lively than my one on the Mille Miglia.
Just a first one:

Targa Florio 1955 - Castellotti / Manzon - Ferrari 857S
Bye
Pifpafadonf

shortleg

I'm glad to announce the publication of the new book about the Targa Florio by Giuseppe Valenza: 450 pages and 650 images. Very, very interesting, a real database for the keens. For more informations : ggvalenza@hotmail.com

Carles Bosch 2

shortleg a écrit :

Revealed the nick "shortleg", now remain to reveal the body colour... of Beatle on Safari lol:
bye

This one will be harder, I'm afraid... lol: lol: lol:

Carles.

shortleg

Carles Bosch 2 a écrit :

Really fantastic! ayumi_71:

By the way, now I know where the nick shortleg comes from...

Carles.

Revealed the nick "shortleg", now remain to reveal the body colour... of Beatle on Safari lol:
bye

Carles Bosch 2

shortleg a écrit :

Do you think is this a rare colour picture of the Carrera 6 driven by Mairesse-Muller from Targa '66?
No, it is a 3D project by my son! Do you like?
Bye to all
http://images.forum-auto.com/m [...] a06 06.jpg

Really fantastic! ayumi_71:

By the way, now I know where the nick shortleg comes from...

Carles.

shortleg

Do you think is this a rare colour picture of the Carrera 6 driven by Mairesse-Muller from Targa '66?
No, it is a 3D project by my son! Do you like?
Bye to all

Carles Bosch 2

Mon screensaver:

Carles.

1 mec a roulettes

article paru dans L' Automobile de juin 1969

bonne lecture à+

shortleg

In 1949 the Ferrari 166 SC n°344 driven by Biondetti-Benedetti won the Targa Florio (in that year Giro di Sicilia too).
I wish to know if this car had the spare wheel positioned at sight , outside of the rear bonnet, like the other 166 driven by Sighinolfi-Vallone on the same race. Usually the spare wheel was inside of the rear bonnet.
I never was able to find any picture 3/4 back.
Regards to all and...good search