CHERCHE spec de la messagerie VAN entre RD3 et Chargeur

[Invité §Del468tX]

Hi,

I'm still online.

Cheers.

[Invité §Mai251DD]

Bonjour,

 

Euh.... enlève moi d'un doute DeltaFX... ça n'a toujours pas été résolu ?

Waouh... c'est limite la recherche du Graal...

 

Avec un chargeur CD, c'est fait...

En modifiant un peu le RD3, c'est fait...

Bon, avec les boîtiers, c'est fait...

 

Mais, il manque une solution... la solution...

[Invité §Del468tX]

bah, étant donné que plus personne ne regarde ce topic, que j'ai trouvé personne pour me bruler un pic avec le code idoine, qu'il n'y a pas un typon clair qqpart, et que je me suis resigné à virer le tauradio d'origine (pour ecran indash)....

 

et que le RT3 wiki a été hacké...

 

bof..

[Invité §Mai251DD]

Sauf erreur, le pic, le code... il n'y a rien du tout... j'ai replongé un peu partout mais rien...

J'avais regardé en 2006 et faute de temps et comme je devais changer de voiture, j'ai laissé tomber...

Enfin, pour le RD3 car pour le RD4 c'est fait !

 

Un truc qui bloque comme ça, alors que tout a été essayé... pour moi, c'est que la piste n'est pas bonne...

 

Il y a un truc que j'ai envie d'essayer depuis... pffff... longtemps :

Mettre en parallèle les E/S VAN du RD3 avec les E/S VAN du changeur de CD...

 

Pas toutes, pas n'importe comment... mais je sens plus un truc comme ça que le simulateur de changeur CD.

 

Ton avis ?

[Invité §dwe173ac]

Still there.

 

I'm trying to contact Bruno to see if he has ftp access to the wiki.

If yes, I should be able to revert the changes.

[Invité §fb2384XZ]

I also trying to build Pugeot cd changer interface. I read trough this thread and I found it very usefull. Is there any way to get the files and documents from the wiki?

 

 

Thanks in advance fb

 

[Invité §bxm814mS]

Hello, anyone here ?

I'm trying to make VAN interface to my 2001 C5 ...

[Invité §pat310GI]

hello

 

I read just almost of this topic

There's a thing that I didn't find the answer

Can we do something for the Peugeot 607 witch is with VDO clarion system from 2002 year. I know that it is also a VAN

is there a possible way to play mp3-s or something to be modified ?

 

is there a way only to change the Changer with one which can play Mp3 cd's

 

Thanks a lot

 

P.s. I download the "Virtual_Dash_0_2_beta" but it can't run. An error appear - "No parser specified in settings.ini"

[Invité §aul420Ml]

Hi,

 

I have a 2005 Peugeot 406 that uses VANbus - I wanted to replace the stock head unit with another one so I had to build a VAN interface in order to get the radio remote working with my Pioneer head unit. In the process I have also built a VAN bus monitor that can capture the data in real time without buffering (500kbps serial link back to PC).

 

Wondering if anyone here is still interested in VAN, I've managed to scrape together all the info I can on the bus messages mostly from this forum thread but there are still lots of gaps! does anyone still have wiki content? I'm going to gather all the info together I have onto my website http://graham.auld.me.uk/projects/vanbus/ unless the wiki makes a re-appearance!

I'm keen to decode as much of the data as possible.

 

I had a carputer in my old Peugeot 405 that will be installed into the 406 once I get the mechanical considerations organised. The real target is for the carputer to be able to know all about what's going on in the car and pretend to be the sat-nav to put graphics on the multifunctional display!

 

Cheers

[Invité §Del468tX]

Still intersted in Van monitoring, especially if I can make my carputer respond to the radio joystick/remote and or read data like instant consumption, oil temp,etc.

 

the hardware part is stalled...

[Invité §aul420Ml]

Cool, that's good to hear.

 

The hardware part is no problem, I'm not familliar with the particular design that was popular in this thread but I have my own design that works nicely.

 

It would be quite usable for having your carputer react to the radio remote and reading fuel consumption and such.

 

I'm doing some more writing up this evening, and should get a schematic up on my website for what I have working.

 

What sort of carputer setup do you have?

 

In my old car I ran a 5 1/4" single board pc with a 300mhz Athlon processor with USB for GPS, serial button input, hard disk for music. I run a stripped down Fedora distro with a home brew front end in Perl/TK that controlled XMMS. I'm currently trying to work out where I can fit my touchscreen in the 406 neatly and if I can squeze the PC behind the dash rather than wiring from the boot as i did before.

[Invité §aul420Ml]

http://graham.auld.me.uk/projects/vanbus/van-pc.html is a little write up of my VAN bus monitor

[Invité §Del468tX]

Hi, my carputer is based on a GEODE NX 1750 amd cpu (1.4 Ghz, socket A, 25W) ,an asrock k7s41gx running win2k & a scorpio blue hdd. Speed is adjusted between 700 MHz and 1.4Ghz.

 

Problem is its integrated video system does 800*480 out of the box but is flakky (directx6.1). However the setup reads Xvids fine even @ 700mhz. As soon as I migrate my main puter from win98se to xp (and replace the gef 4Ti4800se vivo for a 7600gt), I'll use it (ti4800se) in the carputer. I'll be able to hook a rearcam directly to the graphic card video-in.

 

As I drive a 206 the screen will take the place of the headunit, Carputer in boot.

 

Still looking for a good indash monitor, and a dc-dc PSU

[Invité §aul420Ml]

Cool, that sounds pretty good,

 

I bought an 8" touch screen from hong kong about four years ago for my setup which used to fit in the dash instead of air vents. Sadly in the 406 the only in dash option is to remove the multifunctional display and heater blower controls so it may just have to sit at the bottom beneath the head unit in front of the gear stick. The real issue is I dont' want the screen to stand out and attract attention! I really miss the flap in the 405 dash that covered up the head unit :-(

 

I've heard good things about the "M3-ATX" which is a small 12v to ATX power supply with inputs for ignition for booting. My current system uses an EBX form factor board that only requires 5V and 12V so I just built my own switched mode supply with a PIC monitoring the door locks to boot up and shutdown the PC.

[Invité §Del468tX]

Yeah, m3-atx (or pico psu) sounds right. Or you can have a look here:

 

http://carnetix.com/CNX_1290.htm.

 

 

About the diagram on your site, thow I'm a total newb in electronic (last exam score :2/20, back in the 20th century) I'm curious to know why you choosed to use a FT232RL for the serial / USB conversion rather than a Prolific PL2303 (it supports win98se & WinMe) ? Availability, price ?

[Invité §aul420Ml]

Yup that's the supply i meant!

 

Re the serial to USB...

I must admit that win98/winMe did not enter my mind, I'm primarily a linux user who has an XP desktop.

I actually did some prototyping with a Prolific PL2303 and the one thing that put me off was I couldn't get the wide range of baud rates I could from the FTDI chip. Mainly though I chose the FTDI chip because of avaliability and I have used them before so I was quite confident of my design working first time. Also the Prolific interface I have has a max232 type level shifter on the PCB that wouldn't run at rates over 380400 kbaud (slew rate limited).

 

I started out by running at a lower baud rate to the PC, storing up the VAN packet and then sending it out after it finished arriving but you need a reasonable buffer size to keep up with everything on the bus without dropping packets or filtering reception.

 

The prolific interface would be fine at 380400 baud if the software sent out raw bytes (one per 8 bits bus data) rather than an ASCII byte (one per 4 bits bus data). The output would not be readable in the terminal but it's a one line bit of code in perl to convert that back to ASCII as it arrives at the PC.

 

I'll try and take some pictures of my interface board in the next day or so.

 

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[Invité §dwe173ac]

Hello,

 

I'm happy to see there's someone still working on this project. I had

to leave months ago due to time constraints.

 

The rt3wiki seems gonve forever and I was unable to get in touch

with the holder. It was a very valuable source of information, as I

had decoded and documented almost every bit of the most common

packets.

 

Luckly, I had coded the same info in a format that's used by

a perl script to parse the packets on the fly, so I will be able

to parse it again and generate some documentation

 

Meanwhile there have been further developments and I'm sorry

that Graham had to rewrite things that were readily available

 

There's also seems to be various sources of information scattered

on the web.

 

To avoid loosing it all again I created a project page

at google code and will be uploading my files in the svn. I still

have the perl scripts and the can monitor PIC code.

 

I would love if you people could jump in so we

can join our efforts. Backups will be taken via SVN this

time

 

http://code.google.com/p/van-bus/

 

Drop me a note and I'll give you access to the svn and the wiki.

 

Thank you very much for your efforts!

 

 

 

 

[Invité §aul420Ml]

Ahh good stuff. Funnily enough ever since I got my interface for a headunit up on hackaday my website has been very high on google rankings for VAN bus searches. This has resulted in an e-mail every few weeks from people trying to do something with VAN.

 

Anyhoo - one of those e-mails was somone sending me a backup of the rt3 wiki from before it dissapeared. I've not had time to look over that and augment the info that's already on my website. I too now have perl scripts for parsing bus output but development has stalled somewhat now that I have got the things working in the car that were irritating me. It would be good to move things on and develop things like cd-changer or sat-nav emulators to display data on the display from the likes of mp3 players...

 

Please e-mail info for access to van***(replace with an at sign coz i don't love spam :-)**graham.auld.me.uk and i'll start getting some of the info and code I have up there at some point

 

argh! darn this french forum - my rusty french makes navigating somewhat irritating!

 

I am also active on 406oc.co.uk where there are a couple of folk interested in this too.

[Invité §dwe173ac]

 

I'm glad you jumped on board and that you have a backup!!

 

The forum can be set to english too

 

Feel free to give the folks information about the

new repository.

 

I've just added my parsing script and the file

with the format of van frames, bit by bit!

 

http://code.google.com/p/van-bus/source/browse/#svn/trunk

 

I would like to get the wiki in shape again and the build a cdc emulator

for my car, I need aux input.

 

regarding the display, I do not think it can be used to write data.

IIRC it's the display that reads data from the radio, so you would

need to emulate the whole radio and take the original one

off the bus.

 

 

 

 

 

[Invité §dwe173ac]

most of the old wiki has been recovered and is now online

at http://code.google.com/p/van-bus/ , along with graham shiny new code.

 

 

[Invité §PCz408gH]

Hello,

 

I'm from Brazil and I'm trying to use a CDC on my Peugeot 206 with RD3 radio.

I've plugged the CDC on radio but when I press the button to select the Disc Changer nothing happens.

I went to a Peugeot Dealer and they put the PPS on my car, but they didn't found where to enable CDC on BSI.

Can someone give me some help?

[Invité §KiL431hs]

Hi friends. I read all info about VAN bus anywhere. Just one question, PCB layout for CDC Emu is the same as VAN Mon, the difference is in PIC code?

[Invité §gia404zm]

Est-il possible de utiliser ( avec l'adaptateur) un afficheur GPS d’un model 2000, dans model MUX

[Invité §bob338Jr]

Bonsoir a tous,

 

est ce qu'il y a des survivants de la scene van ?

 

si oui, je commence a monitorer le bus avec un elm, qui l'air de rien peut etre bien puissant une fois programmé

 

voila, je me sens seul ! et tout les sites interessants en 2005 sont morts !

 

Merci d'avance.

 

[Invité §206818mu]

Bonjour à tous,

 

Y'a pas mal d'informations pour pouvoir faire quelque chose de concret...

 

Pour ma part, je cherche un simulateur de réseau VAN PSA ? possible de trouver ça ? même en interne ?

 

Je compte pouvoir créer mes propres paquets et par exemple, les afficher.

 

Ce ça serait mon but.

 

Pour le matos, électronique, j'ai tout ce qu'il faut... ce n'es pas un soucis, travaillant dans un labo d'électronique.

 

J'aimerai utiliser une plateforme C de programmation (langage que je maitrise) ou VHDL (genre spartan 3) (pour la parallélisation par exemple).

 

 

 

 

[Invité §Del468tX]

Je pensais a un truc, y aurait pas moyen de faire quelque chose avec une plateforme arduino ? Ca serait peut-être plus simple pour les non-electroniciens qui n'ont pas envie ou les moyens de se lancer dans la réalisation d'un PCB complet, plus programmation d'un chip.

 

Le jour où tout marche, le noob n'a qu'a se commander un arduino sur ebay, bruler le code, un shield, et hop.

[Invité §206818mu]

Oui ça peut-être possible.

 

J'ai songé à ce genre de plateforme... je partais sur un spartan 3 parce que j'en ai un.

 

Mais de toute manière, tous n'est pas possible.

 

Il faudrait en gros deux carte:

l'un pour créer les trames VAN et le Control.

Et l'autre pour l'audio.

 

Un hack adruino pour control Ipod:

http://hackaday.com/2009/09/08/arduino-as-ipod-remote-control/

 

et la librairie:

https://github.com/finsprings/arduinaap

 

Maintenant, est-il possible de lire une cléf usb et un MP3 ?

 

Une piste ?

http://www.robotshop.com/ca/productinfo.aspx?pc=RB-Rog-15&lang=en-US.

 

 

Personnellement, je pense que tout est possible.

 

J'ai su récupérer pour ma part, un BSI + divers faisceau d'une 206 MUX, je me casse encore la tête à tout faire remarcher sur mon établi.

 

 

[Invité §Del468tX]

Ah oué, fectivement. J'avais pas en tete de lire des clefs usb/mp3, mais plutot s'interfacer avec la voiture. Avec par exemple la commande au volant: a chaque action, pouvoir intercepter les frames correspondantes, et propager les ordres equivalents a un Ipod, ou un car pc, etc etc.

 

 

[Invité §206818mu]

Les références de projets en Arduino, ne manque pas.

 

Un petit hack pour récupérer les commandes au volant:

http://hackaday.com/2009/07/15/integrated-steering-wheel-radio-controls/

 

Une petite recherche et on trouve des correspondance entre arduino et VAN:

https://gist.github.com/307053/17fc723e8190a6c80da35e431a76e289f80aa363

 

Donc tout est possible.

 

 

 

 

[Invité §mor350iA]

Hi guys, sorry for reviving such an old thread but I just wanted to let you know that the research on VAN bus what you started is continuing, and there is some progress on translating the VAN messages to CAN:

 

 

ESP32 library for reading the bus: https://github.com/morcibacsi/esp32_rmt_van_rx